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If by solemn he means "awe inspiring" I guess...I like what he said, I'm just not sure I *really* believe him. I want to...I really do....
I guess this is on YouTube? I can't see it at all, but YouTube is blocked at my work.
Solemn was a very....interesting choice in words.
I had been critical of him in the past based on the objective data out there, but this video has changed my mind a bit. He clearly is sincere and has some good goals. If he has some hidden agenda, he's great at hiding it. Seems OK to me.
This reminds me so much of the bit of feminism called "Patriarchy Hurts Men, Too;" in that, refusal to improve birth practices ultimately does medical providers a disservice as well. I have heard many anguished stories from nurses and some OBs about their attempts to care for their patients responsibly and compassionately in a culture that is hostile to change, even when it makes sense and benefits patients.
I hope his facility does great and spawns a host of imitators, and I mostly hope more medical professionals will come forth to demand better care.
muah! (me kissing you emjaybee)
"This reminds me so much of the bit of feminism called "Patriarchy Hurts Men Too;" in that, refusal to improve birth practices ultimately does medical providers a disservice as well. I have heard many anguished stories from nurses and some OBs about their attempts to care for their patients responsibly and compassionately in a culture that is hostile to change, even when it makes sense and benefits patients."
a-frickin- men gurl. We have developed such a disdain and not without cause for obstetricians that we cannot accept that he may actually be sincere and earnest. It is plausible that a Friday afternoon "I'm a pussy" phone call from the chief of staff did happen and then he had to do what he had to do. I am sure judging by the conversations I've had with health care personnel that their office politics is beyond cut throat. I like to call Biter’s dilemma the "Hollywood" mystique. I lost my job in public school as a result of the same nonsense. Higher ups- assume that since you are not in the game and kissing their behinds at every move, you must be outside wrecking things…wrecking everything.
There was a blog post by one HIGHLY obsolete and embittered no longer practicing doctor ripping him to shreds and bringing out all of the lawsuits he apparently has pending clap clap clap you can use a search engine- we’re allllll soooooooo impressed. Oh okay- like he may be the only obstetrician in American practice- who has ever been sued. I love that- she tried to derive her power from “knowing” all the dirt-yeah well big whoop- what kind of person basks in someone’s misfortune? Additionally, if any birth related health care professional *UNINTENTIONALLY* uses bad judgment and there is a negative outcome-(injury to baby or mother, death of a baby, death of a mother [rare]) *how does the saying go- we will never see lawsuits for doctors NOT doing c-sections? We act as if a negative outcome could have never happened when of course it could have ALL ALONG. Take for instance a brachial plexus injury as a result of a so-so obstetrician messing up- (maybe s/he was a C- student all through school: Dr. Dum-dum). Obstetricians love to vilify one and glorify the other.(doctor vs. midwife, doctor vs. doctor, monkey vs. robot) Logic is good stuff we cling to it when perhaps we shouldn't. Women are not statistics; families are not “part of a study.” Birth has been reduced to lock step protocols when it should be an experience that people can decide based on what is best for their own health. It is not cancer but we have decided to “kill it” all the time. We consider docs who break rank crazy pantses when we should embrace them. Medicine was an art and science at one time. (see Soranus for details)
I've thought a lot about Dr. Biter’s dilemma and I live on the other coast (showing how connectedness can happen even in internet land)- I have always wondered what makes obstetricians generally lack compassion, why as much as I keep my mind open to connecting with them and feeling like I could "LOVE" my doctors I don't and lord knows I have tried in earnest- I HAD to put my trust in them- my health/pregnancy demanded this. Is it our litigiousness, is it the rigor of med school that grinds the caring out of a doc (mine rolled her eyes when I mentioned something lay person related- that I wondered/remarked on- sorry I didn’t go to med school- can I ask a question? Pretty please Dr. Patriarchy? Is it the cadaver principle (messing with the dead tends to jade some), the paltry reimbursements from crappy insurance companies and state run health plans?????? What is it? Last week I had to deliver some goat kids - we have some does that always experience complications- and I was at the ready- waiting- I watched my inner dialogue for hours- I wanted to intervene. I wanted to run and grab a scalpel from the barn when I thought that kid was stuck and I wanted to have a good outcome because we lose money when we lose livestock. I had to mentally tell myself wait, there is no complication presenting RIGHT NOW- there is no need to “mess with” anything. Tempting….to though speed things along, “fix” things. This is rambling and a bit OT, but I get some of it through a unique portal I guess- it is okay if I reduce the birth of goats (which we do not do) to treating kids as chattel to be traded as a commodity at will. I think we should reserve judgment until the verdict (proverbial and literal) is in on Dr. Biter. Internet land makes some feel like we have all the real details when we don’t.
I liked him in the video. It was the first time I had ever seem him talking and I thought that he seemed very sincere and concerned for his patients and babies. I have been trying to be be neutral, aware that I don't know all of the facts, but after seeing the video my gut says that he is telling the truth.
I also appreciate the video and chance to hear his side, or at least what he is able to discuss. I agree he comes across as the real deal. Workplace politics can be so horribly destructive-- and he is right, in this case, it isn't just about him and a job but his patients and their care, too. Dr. Fogelson, I commend you for keeping an open mind and admitting when you change your mind. That is an admirable quality. Maybe I'll go fan you on FB now. ;) Thanks for keeping us posted, Jill. Dr. Biter, best of luck!
I *do* know the man and wouldn't be supporting him if I felt, for half a second, he was ingeniuine. The way he speaks in the video is the way he speaks always. I do not believe he is hiding *anything*.
I'm happy others are finally getting to see why we here in San Diego *love* "our" Dr. Wonderful... beyond the photos I've taken. ;)
Does anyone wonder why this guy has had 4 lawsuits that are currently in progress? I am sure he might be a great physician but it would be good neutral journalism to also explore this side of the story and present the cases so that women knew what happened. It might be that none of them are his issue, but most physicians are maybe sued once or twice in their careers and this doctor has had 4 in the last two years. Objective journalism would dictate that this be presented as well