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This week’s open thread is hosted by Wasp Woman because Another Rachel said she should get a chance.
What’s happening? News? Thoughts? Puffy summer pregnancies to complain about?
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I knew that the family practice group in town were the only people willing to talk to women about VBA2C, but just found out that they will also do VBA3C - wow. They counsel the women on risk/benefit, and make sure they understand, but they are deeply entrenched in evidence-based medicine and understand that the increased risks of VBAMC are real, but still increases of very small risks, and believe that the patients can make their own decisions. Hott.
The OB group at the same hospital, on the other hand, has started pitting to distress. Heard this from a nurse. ACK.
The old joke is "pit to decels then back off one milliunit". Almost not as funny as the attorney joke of "a good lawyer knows the law, a great one knows the judge". I have been busy working on a urology/radiology paper and breaking in a new partner. Have I missed anything?
Hey all, I'm 17 weeks into pregnancy #3. I have one sucessful VBAC under my belt, but the Midwife I'm seeing still recommends I go to the hospital for the birth. I don't really know why, it's a bikini line scar. At first I was okay with hospital birth but I'm getting more and more worried. My VBAC was awful, they wouldn't let me off my bed, I was stuck on my back, unless I wanted to squat on the (very high off the ground, nothing really to hang on to) bed. I'm told they will want me on the monitor AGAIN for most of my labour, and to top it all off, my midwife has to sign over care to a doctor. Well nuts. The only thing that saved me (and just barely) from a repeat C was my husband fending off the doctors who wanted to do it about 12 hours into labour. I swear they came in every hour and said "if you haven't had the baby in an hour...". It wasn't even my OB, he went home as soon as I got to the hospital because he'd been up all night, he said, delivering. I never saw him and I was in labour at the hospital for 21 hours... I hope he had a nice day. Of course he didn't leave before he tried to break my waters some more. I only told him a few million times during that pregnancy NO INTERVENTIONS.
I'm almost compromising with myself, saying I'll stay home as long as possible with this labour. Last time we went in very early, My water broke before I even noticed any labour. The problem is we live an hour from the delivery hospital and we have to drop our kids off which adds at least half an hour to our travel time.
As far as going post dates go, at 38 weeks I had to start begging my OB with my last pg to let me keep going.
To Vanessa Manz : Much love and hugs.
I feel like a hypocrite, I'm thinking of aving a CBAC because I don't think I can handle another 11th hour transport to the hospital for an emergency c-section. Well, that and the fact that I don't think I'll ever be able to trust a midwife again. It sucks. Where's the support meeting for that? If I hear another woman say "trust birth" I think I might vomit on their ugly, hippy crocs. I did trust birth and it didn't work out .... What am I supposed to do with that?
My best friend just told me she's preggo with #2 and will be moving across the country and will need to find a VBAC provider late in her pregnancy. She wants to try, but not to fight for a VBAC. What is the right info, what is the right amount? I know she'll write off anything too heavy or too hippy. Is it even possible to try without a fight?
Always anon & Vanessa- hang in there.
A Natural Advocate, we're in this thing together, buddy. Coast to Coast BarzamSlam.
Tapanga: Like I wrote above, there's no reason for anyone to birth where they're uncomfortable, when there are other options. Do you know of any other home birth midwives in the area that work with VBACs? Although, frankly, with one under your belt I'd say you're a "better" candidate than most. Also, have you asked your midwife what her thought process is, and why she thinks you need the hospital? Good luck!
Rebecca S:: Does she know where she'll be moving? Maybe if she could start looking for providers now, perhaps phone interviewing them, then she'd feel less like she's fighting? It's a good idea to try and interview earlier anyhow, for sanity's sake. I moved cross-country at 28 weeks with my third, but already knew the midwives I wanted and called them to "reserve" my spot as soon as I found out we were moving, heh. Also, let's take the bars DOWN, man. :D
ob, you haven't missed a lot. A bunch of home birth research drama and, as you can see above, Another Rachel ate too many peanut butter brownies. I hope having a partner means you won't have to keep receiving your personal mail at the office or hospital since it sounds like you never leave.
always anon... You know what's weird? Two things: 1) I neglected forgot about this thread last night because I was watching The Big Lebowski for the first time, which is really weird because it's hilarious and I don't know how I never saw it, and 2) I woke up this morning thinking I would repost the open thread on the FB page with a note about how hard it is to have social or familial pressures about our pregnancy decisions, specifically if women want to give birth at home and their family doesn’t approve or if someone wants a repeat cesarean and hangs out with a lot of women who have VBACed.
I don’t think there’s anything hypocritical about being interested in the politics of VBAC, home birth and midwifery and personally preferring or wanting a high-intervention birth. Is the point of activism to try to get as many women as possible to ____x____ or not to ____x____ or is it to trust women to make their own decisions?
All of us ‘round these parts agree that it’s the latter.
Wow, I also cannot believe you got this far in life w/o Lebowski. It is so up your alley. Multiple viewings recommended. As you can imagine, it is frequently quoted in our house. We were trying to find a Little Lebowski Urban Achiever t-shirt for my son recently, but nothing yet.
Always Anon-- I agree w/ Jill. You've been through a lot and have to just figure out what is best for you this time. You have an advantage over most women in that it sounds like you know all of the pros and cons. The whole 'trust birth' thing can be so misleading-- birth should be uneventful 90% of the time, but there is always the possibility of something coming up... no matter how educated and positive-thinking one is. Hugs and peace as you figure out your next steps.
I was a person who went into my "VBAC pregnancy" kind of going along with some arbitrary BS from my OBs. I was a bit like, "Yes, I am supposed to want this, and I mostly do, but I also fear the unknown." The more the doctors were negative and patronizing, and ignored all scientific evidence, though, the more I HAD TO HAVE A VBAC. That's just me, I guess -- tell me I "can't," and I'll tell you I must!! I ended up firing them at 37 weeks, and had an unmedicated VBAC one week later. And yes, I agree that OBs should not get away with bait-and-swtich. It was so blatantly, obviously the norm at the practice I originally used. Like a "crisis pregnancy center." I feel like picketing outside their office.
Hugs and love, y'all. The Dude Abides!