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Aug022010

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By Jill—Unnecesarean

This week’s open thread is hosted by Mr. T becuase he was the first person to come to mind. Feel free to analyze why I dream of Mr. T or say the first thing that pops into your head. Well structured, coherent arguments or links to articles also welcome.  

 

 

 

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Because you pity the fool who thinks unnecessary c-sections are BS!

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAnother Rachel

Ha ha! True, my friend.

I'm wondering if we should do open threads every other week.

August 2, 2010 | Registered CommenterJill

Open threads are such a nice surprise every Monday. (Yes, I am still surprised every Monday...)
I'm nearly finished with Rixa's dissertation, which has been just fascinating and reoriented some of my thinking about birth.

I'm also growing a wishlist of topics that I want to encounter in my reader!
-a thoughtful comparison of America's medicalized treatment of birth with America's medicalized treatment of death
-thinking about morbidity instead of mortality when comparing home vs hospital. why do we tend to only focus on mortality?
-what midwives (of various stripes/iinitials) do when confronted with very early or very late babies, particularly for planned home births

what else is up? i keep striking out with looking for birth-related volunteer opportunities (so far, have tried a Centering Pregnancy program and a hospital-based providing-free-doulas-to-underserved-mothers program). no one's returning calls. discouraging because i am trying to act on 'reading ≠ doing'.

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJMT

my link doesn't work :(
probably because i don't know nothin' bout birthin' no html

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJMT

JMT, that's weird. I've been reflecting a lot on the birth/death, beginning of life/end of life issues lately. There must be someone who has written something up on it. Rixa reflected on the home death movement last year (I think) but I can't find the link.

Birth and death have historically been highly ritualized, revered passages. It's probably not that weird that everything is so highly medicalized considering the dominant culture's values regarding scientific advancement and technology. Pain relief is a big part of our rituals since we have the ability now to cancel out pain to a large extent and keep people more comfortable. We also value efficiency and like to make everything prompt, tidy and cost effective.

I owe you an e-mail. Have you read Robbie Davis-Floyd's Birth as an American Rite of Passage yet?

August 2, 2010 | Registered CommenterJill

I love that there were three Facebook shares of this post before there were any comments. Everyone <3's Mr. T.

August 2, 2010 | Registered CommenterJill

Ha, JMT. But great questions. My big question sparked by Rixa's blog a while back is that I would love to see a study comparing OB and MW reactions and impact on future treatment from their experiences w/ traumatic/tragic births. It seems like we often hear OBs say they'd rather over-manage to avoid seeing another tragedy, but I have yet (in my tiny world) to hear a 'birth is normal' MW, who must also see a fair share of the tragic, say the same. Why such divergent reactions? Is it like conservatives v. progressives-- the worldviews are just so different?

And seriously, Jill, just when I think you can't rock any harder, you post Mr. T. We have a pic of Mr. T in the toolbox just so we crack up every time some random shit needs fixin'.

Big love to you, friend. Oh, and I love the weekly threads but this is your party and every other week would be awesome, too.

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAnother Rachel

Yeah - that was a game changer (in more than just my thinking about birth) and I'm still kind of processing. I hadn't really read anthropology like that before - the first two paragraphs of the introduction were (literally) - jaw dropping for me.

I'm taking 'Childbirth and Authoritative Knowledge' with me this weekend to my brother's wedding (long flight Boston to Cali!). Pretty excited about that too.

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJMT

Hey JMT, I want your link to work! Boo : (

If you think of any other good birth-related internship opportunities, pass them along. I have to do an internship (as a degree requirement) in the Spring, and I'm researching options now. My degree will be in Human Development and Family Studies, but I want to go on to become a doula and then eventually a midwife, so I'd like this internship to be somewhat related to my future career path.

Here's something random: NINE of my friends are pregnant right now, and 4 of them are due in January 2011. I have officially hit that stage in my life where all my friends are having babies. I can only hope that they are reading some of those "crazy" articles I post on Facebook. Sigh.

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEmH

Ooh, Jill I am liking where you are going with that statement about ritual and the value our society places on medicine.

I had a brilliant thought today while cleaning my house and was glad to realize there would be an open thread tonight.

Of course, that thought has been buried under fifty not-so-brilliant, but important thoughts, like, "Does vomit come out of tulle?" and "Is it bad to let my four-year-old jump on the trampoline after vomiting if it keeps her from crying which is a major source of the vomiting?" and "How many nights can I serve hot dogs for dinner before I'm a bad mom?" And now the brilliant thought is completely lost, probably forever.

Sigh.

August 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterVanessa Manz
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